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		<title>THE LIL&#8217;EST DEBATERS</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/14/the-lilest-debaters/7512/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Above: 3rd graders debate the Iraq war.
(hat tip: Andrew Sullivan)
Post from: The Blog Formerly Known As Vote '08
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<p><strong>Above: 3rd graders debate the Iraq war.</strong></p>
<p><strong>(hat tip: <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/the-iraq-war-de.html" target="_blank">Andrew Sullivan</a>)</strong></p>
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		<title>VOTE08&#8217;s GREATEST HITS</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/01/vote08s-greatest-hits-3/6134/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
		<category><![CDATA[Barack Obama]]></category>

		<category><![CDATA[Campaign History]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Revisit the Debates

Watch the 1st Presidential Debate here.

Watch the Vice-Presidential Debate here. Who won? Click here.


Watch the 2nd Presidential Debate here. Who won? Click here.

Watch the 3rd Presidential Debate here. Who won? Click here.

(image by Matt Brunson)
Post from: The Blog Formerly Known As Vote '08
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 style="text-align: center"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="text-decoration: underline">Revisit the Debates</span></span></h2>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong><img class="size-full wp-image-4006 aligncenter" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/09/debate-cleanup.jpg" alt="" width="447" height="210" /></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/27/the-1st-debate-2/3956/" target="_blank">Watch the 1st Presidential Debate here</a>.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img class="size-full wp-image-4268 aligncenter" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/vp-debate-2.jpg" alt="" width="352" height="202" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/03/the-vice-presidential-debate/4267/" target="_blank">Watch the Vice-Presidential Debate here</a>. Who won? <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/03/vice-presidential-debate-analysis/4272/" target="_blank">Click here</a>.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center"><strong><img class="size-full wp-image-4559 aligncenter" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/2nd-debate.jpg" alt="" width="371" height="178" /></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/08/the-2nd-presidential-debate/4328/" target="_blank">Watch the 2nd Presidential Debate here</a>. Who won? <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/08/who-won/4558/" target="_blank">Click here</a>.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-6135" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/11/3rd-debate.jpg" alt="" width="359" height="261" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/" target="_blank">Watch the 3rd Presidential Debate here</a>. Who won? <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/who-won-the-3rd-debate/5065/" target="_blank">Click here</a>.</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center"><em><strong>(image by Matt Brunson)</strong></em></p>
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		<title>SHOWDOWN FOR THE SENATE</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/26/showdown-for-the-senate/5620/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[
  
Above: last night&#8217;s Georgia Senate debate. 
This race is incredibly close.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST: Based on what I&#8217;ve seen in this debate, I predict Chambliss will win. A close race, to be sure, but he&#8217;ll win. Watch how he easily is able to fend off not one but two challengers on the [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong> <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/26/showdown-for-the-senate/5620/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a> </strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>Above: last night&#8217;s Georgia Senate debate. </strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>This race is <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/senate/ga/georgia_senate-302.html" target="_blank">incredibly close</a>.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5626" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/vote08blog48.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" /><strong><em>YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST: </em>Based on what I&#8217;ve seen in this debate, I predict Chambliss will win. A close race, to be sure, but he&#8217;ll win. Watch how he easily is able to fend off not one but two challengers on the stage. The man appears far more comfortable in his skin than the other two. Jim Martin continually lets himself be interrupted, &amp; he doesn&#8217;t convey a good speaking style that says &#8220;I&#8217;m in control.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><strong>Of course, I could be wrong. </strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><strong>But if Chambliss wins, remember where you heard it first.<br />
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<p style="text-align: left"><strong><br />
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		<title>CAMPAIGN HISTORY, OCTOBER 21st</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/21/campaign-history-october-21st/5346/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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How Reagan &#8220;Closed the Deal&#8221;
Comparisons have been made with this year&#8217;s race to 1980, &#38; they&#8217;re apt in the sense thatlike Reagan, voters didn&#8217;t appear to feel &#8220;safer&#8221; with Obama until after the debate. Will it have the same outcome? That remains to be seen, of course.
After the jump some commercials Reagan aired that year:

How [...]]]></description>
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<h2><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="text-decoration: underline">How Reagan &#8220;Closed the Deal&#8221;</span></span></h2>
<a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/21/campaign-history-october-21st/5346/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a>
<p><strong>Comparisons have been made with this year&#8217;s race to 1980, &amp; they&#8217;re apt in the sense thatlike Reagan, voters didn&#8217;t appear to feel &#8220;safer&#8221; with Obama until after the debate. Will it have the same outcome? That remains to be seen, of course.</strong></p>
<p><strong>After the jump some commercials Reagan aired that year:</strong></p>
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<a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/21/campaign-history-october-21st/5346/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a>
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<a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/21/campaign-history-october-21st/5346/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a>
<a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/21/campaign-history-october-21st/5346/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a>
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<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5347" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/vote08blog43.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" />How do you think these ads compare to ads this year? Post a comment! All views are welcome.</p>
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		<title>STILL, THE PARALLELS ARE SOMEWHAT STARTLING</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/still-the-parallels-are-somewhat-startling/5117/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Barack Obama is certainly not Batman.
&#38; John McCain is certainly not the Penguin.
But could I resist posting this?
No.
No, I couldn&#8217;t.
Post from: The Blog Formerly Known As Vote '08
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<p><strong>Barack Obama is certainly not Batman.</strong></p>
<p><strong>&amp; John McCain is certainly not the Penguin.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But could I resist posting this?</strong></p>
<p><strong>No.</strong></p>
<p><strong>No, I couldn&#8217;t.</strong></p>
<p>Post from: <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com">The Blog Formerly Known As Vote '08</a></p>
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		<title>WHO WON THE 3rd DEBATE?</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/who-won-the-3rd-debate/5065/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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[image by Matt Brunson]
&#8230;you mean other than plumbers?
I would say that in terms of issues, substance, &#38; attacks, John McCain had his best of the three last night.
But because of the debate&#8217;s &#8217;sit-down&#8217; format, he lost the debate on an entirely different level.
Details after the jump.


Turn the volume down all the way on this clip [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center"><em><strong>[image by Matt Brunson]</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>&#8230;you mean other than <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/us/politics/16plumber.html?_r=2&amp;scp=3&amp;sq=joe%20the%20plumber&amp;st=cse&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin" target="_blank">plumbers</a>?</strong></p>
<p><strong>I would say that in terms of issues, substance, &amp; attacks, John McCain had his best of the three last night.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But because of the debate&#8217;s &#8217;sit-down&#8217; format, he lost the debate on an entirely different level.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Details after the jump.</strong></p>
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<p><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/who-won-the-3rd-debate/5065/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Turn the volume down all the way on this clip &amp; watch it.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Look at the body language in both men.<br />
</strong></p>
<p><strong>I constantly have to remind myself that unlike me - who&#8217;s been following this campaign for 2 years now - there are many voters out there who are just now starting to pay attention.</strong></p>
<p><strong>&amp; for those voters - even though many of them will not consciously admit it - what each of the candidates say is far less important than <em>how</em> they say it. How they <em>look</em> when saying it. Voters look for non-verbal cues that reinforce their beliefs on a candidate&#8217;s &#8220;readiness&#8221; to be president.</strong></p>
<p><strong>By this standard (look up at the silent clip again) you can see how much more important McCain&#8217;s rapid-fire eye-blinkings &amp; herky-jerky movements &amp; Obama&#8217;s slow, steady head nods &amp; smiles are in creating impressions with voters.</strong></p>
<p><strong>By this measure, it&#8217;s not even close. Obama&#8217;s mopping up.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I think the sit-down format hurt McCain in this regard. I think for the 1st debate, he was able to get all his nervous energy out by shifting his weight. During the 2nd debate, he was able to expend this energy by walking around.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Last night that nervous energy had nowhere else to go but his eyes &amp; hands. As one review I read pointed out, he looked like a kid in time-out who is really ready for time-out to be over.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Of course this is a superficial view. But I do think it&#8217;s the single biggest reason Obama&#8217;s doing so well in any national poll that&#8217;s come out since the debates began. He simply can control his body language better. </strong></p>
<p><strong>Is that fair? No, of course not. But it&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening - again, whether voters realize it or not.</strong></p>
<h2><strong><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5071" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/vote08blog33.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" />What do you think?</strong></h2>
<p><strong>UPDATE: Look at this compliation of all of the faces McCain made last night. </strong></p>
<a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/who-won-the-3rd-debate/5065/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a>
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		<title>THE 3rd PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
		<category><![CDATA[Barack Obama]]></category>

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Did you miss it last night? You&#8217;re in luck - I&#8217;ve got the entire debate in full &#38; in order after the jump. (My analysis will be in the next post)


  
Above: Schieffer starts off with a question to both candidates on why their plans are better for America.

 
Above: Joe the Plumber makes [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Did you miss it last night? You&#8217;re in luck - I&#8217;ve got the entire debate in full &amp; in order after the jump. (My analysis will be in the next post)<br />
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<h2><strong> <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a> </strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Above: Schieffer starts off with a question to both candidates on why their plans are better for America.<br />
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<h2><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a> </strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Above: Joe the Plumber makes his 1st appearance.<br />
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<h2><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Above: a debate on the deficit &amp; proposed &#8220;spending freezes.&#8221;<br />
</strong></h2>
<h2><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Above: Schieffer asks if either of them can balance the budget, &amp; McCain says &#8220;I&#8217;m not President Bush.&#8221;<br />
</strong></h2>
<h2><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Above: Schieffer &#8220;dares&#8221; them to say their attacks to each other&#8217;s faces.<br />
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<h2><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Above: a discussion of campaign ads &amp; smears.<br />
</strong></h2>
<h2><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Above: the Bill Ayers &amp; ACORN issues.<br />
</strong></h2>
<h2><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Above: both candidates discuss their vice-presidential nominees.<br />
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<h2><strong>Above: a discussion of energy policy.<br />
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<h2><strong><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/16/the-3rd-presidential-debate/5058/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Above: a discussion of trade policy.<br />
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<h2><strong>Above: a debate over health care.<br />
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<h2><strong>Above: Joe the Plumber &amp; taxes.<br />
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<h2><strong>Above: a discussion of Roe v. Wade &amp; Supreme Court justices.<br />
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<h2><strong>Above: a discussion of late-term abortions &amp; Roe v. Wade.<br />
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<h2><strong>Above: how can our children compete in an increasingly competitive world?<br />
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<h2><strong>Above: a discussion on the federal government&#8217;s role in schools.<br />
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<h2><strong>Above: Closing Statements.<br />
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		<title>LAST CLASH PREVIEW</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/15/last-clash-preview/5049/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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As we said yesterday, McCain says he does plan to bring up the William Ayers issue at tonight&#8217;s debate. That&#8217;s after much goading from his supporters - &#38; his opponent (&#8221;say it to my face&#8220;). Obama said today he&#8217;s ready for that attack.

It&#8217;s all turned, essentially, into this:


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<p><strong>As we <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/14/john-mccain-october-14th/4940/" target="_blank">said yesterday</a>, McCain says he does plan to bring up the William Ayers issue at tonight&#8217;s debate. That&#8217;s after much goading from his supporters - &amp; his opponent (&#8221;<a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/08/barack-obama-october-8th/4678/" target="_blank">say it to my face</a>&#8220;). Obama <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/15/obama-pre-debate-memo-wer_n_134803.html" target="_blank">said today</a> he&#8217;s ready for that attack.<br />
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<p><strong>It&#8217;s all turned, essentially, into this:</strong></p>
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<p><strong>But is there a chance it could turn out that it&#8217;s McCain&#8217;s tongue that sticks to the flagpole? </strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/mccain-transition-chief-a_n_134595.html" target="_blank">Possibly, yes</a>.<br />
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<p><strong>McCain&#8217;s in a quandary. Mentioning Ayers has the potential to grab <em>some</em> of those &#8220;unpersuadeds&#8221; in the electorate. Yet it&#8217;s a double-edged sword - the vast majority of undecided voters want talk of the economy &amp; nothing else. It&#8217;s a gamble. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d advise him to do it, supporters be da(rn)ed. It will certainly not keep those supporters home on election day.</strong></p>
<p><strong>What can McCain do to turn the election around? People from all sides of the aisle weigh in <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/14/AR2008101402769.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</strong></p>
<p><strong><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5051" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/vote08blog32.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" />I do hope you watch tonight. This is the last chance we&#8217;re going to see these two candidates on the stage at the same time, outlining their visions for the future. If you have plans, I&#8217;d recommend changing them if you can. History will happen tonight.</strong></p>
<p><strong>&amp; in case you&#8217;re unable to view it, I hope to have the entire debate posted on this blog (it&#8217;ll be the very next post after this one) by 9am EDT tomorrow.<br />
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<p><em><strong>Between now &amp; then, I&#8217;d like to ask your opinion. What advice would you give both candidates tonight? Please weigh in in the comments section!</strong></em></p>
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		<title>WHO WON?</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/08/who-won/4558/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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SO sorry about the lack of posts today.. I had to come in late &#38; then deal with the normal newscast I have to put together &#38; then try to find out why my post I filed yesterday about Tactics vs. Strategy in predicting last night&#8217;s debate seemingly disappeared.
I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve already read/heard/seen quite a [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>SO sorry about the lack of posts today.. I had to come in late &amp; then deal with the normal newscast I have to put together &amp; then try to find out why my post I filed yesterday about Tactics vs. Strategy in predicting last night&#8217;s debate seemingly disappeared.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve already read/heard/seen quite a bit of analysis about last night&#8217;s debate.. let&#8217;s go through my points quickly.<br />
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<p><strong>I think McCain did far better in this debate than he did the 1st one. He was far more &#8220;approachable&#8221; &amp; considerate; he empathized (a la Clinton) with the questioners.. &amp; he definitely appeared more animated in a good way.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I actually think Obama seemed a bit more &#8216;negative&#8217; in his attacks on McCain, though it&#8217;s entirely likely that they were close to the same kinds of attacks as the 1st debate, but drawn into sharper relief in the town hall format.<br />
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<p><strong>But John McCain failed to effectively draw blood. He actually made a smart decision not to get down in the gutter, despite the pleas from the right. Doing so would have had him doing far worse. But rather than draw blood, the best he could do was scratches, or even red marks.</strong></p>
<p><strong>All Obama had to do was give off a &#8220;presidential&#8221; air. &amp; so while he didn&#8217;t clearly win the night, he did nothing to change his upward momentum. &amp; he certainly won over quite a few people who before tonight had not seen him discourse for 90 minutes.<br />
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<p><strong>Which is bad news for John McCain.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Body language note that I haven&#8217;t seen pointed out: there were several times in the debate where John McCain actually <em>walked backwards to his chair &amp; talked at the same time</em>. Think about the visual symbolism that that body language represents. Not a good move.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Those are my initial thoughts.. I&#8217;ll try to have more later. What I really want to hear is what you thought of it. So post a comment!<br />
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		<title>THE 2nd PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/08/the-2nd-presidential-debate/4328/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s clip 1.. of 19. Watch them in order &#38; in full after the jump.

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<p><strong>Here&#8217;s clip 1.. of 19. Watch them in order &amp; in full after the jump.</strong></p>
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		<title>PRIOR PRESIDENTIAL PATHS: OCTOBER 7th</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/07/campaign-history/4283/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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The Grandaddy of &#8216;em All
Above: watch how it worked for the first year this &#8216;town-hall&#8217; debate format was tried, in 1992.
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<h2><span style="text-decoration: underline">The Grandaddy of &#8216;em All</span></h2>
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<p><strong>Above: watch how it worked for the first year this &#8216;town-hall&#8217; debate format was tried, in 1992.</strong></p>
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		<title>JOE BIDEN: OCTOBER 6th</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/06/joe-biden-october-6th/4613/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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Roger Ebert on Biden&#8217;s Best Debate Moment

The film critic says 
Biden said, &#8220;I know what it&#8217;s like to be a single parent raising two children.&#8221; He did not know if his sons would survive the auto accident that took his wife and daughter. For a moment, he lost his composure. Looking at the moment again, [...]]]></description>
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<h2><span style="text-decoration: underline">Roger Ebert on Biden&#8217;s Best Debate Moment</span></h2>
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<p><strong>The film critic <a href="http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/10/you_didnt_ask_me_about_the_deb.html" target="_blank">says</a></strong><em><strong> </strong></em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong>Biden said, &#8220;I know what it&#8217;s like to be a single parent raising two children.&#8221; He did not know if his sons would survive the auto accident that took his wife and daughter. For a moment, he lost his composure. Looking at the moment again, I believe, as I did at the time, that it was genuine emotion, and not stagecraft. It could not have been anticipated by Palin. The next camera angle was above and behind her. She paused. The silence seemed to anticipate words of sympathy and identification from her. But Biden had ended in a sentence using the word &#8220;change,&#8221; and her response, reflecting no emotion at all, cued off that word and became a talking point about McCain. This felt to me, at worst, insensitive and callous. At best, that she had not fully heard Biden. In either event, her response troubled me. If a man had responded in that way to such a statement from a women, he would be called a heartless brute.</strong></em></p>
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		<title>SARAH PALIN: OCTOBER 3rd</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/03/sarah-palin-october-3rd/4616/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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Most Over the Top Palin Reviewer
That award goes to the National Review&#8217;s Rich Lowry, whose viewpoint - up until I read this one - I happened to take seriously:
&#8220;A very wise TV executive once told me that the key to TV is projecting through the screen. It&#8217;s one of the keys to the success of, [...]]]></description>
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<h2><span style="text-decoration: underline">Most Over the Top Palin Reviewer</span></h2>
<p><strong>That award goes to the National Review&#8217;s Rich Lowry, whose viewpoint - up until I read <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDYzMGFiNjQ0MWRjNmI0ZTlkYjgwZTExMjA3MWNiZTk=" target="_blank">this one</a> - I happened to take seriously:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong>&#8220;A very wise TV executive once told me that the key to TV is projecting through the screen. It&#8217;s one of the keys to the success of, say, a Bill O&#8217;Reilly, who comes through the screen and grabs you by the throat. Palin too projects through the screen like crazy. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, &#8220;Hey, I think she just winked at me.&#8221; And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. This is a quality that can&#8217;t be learned; it&#8217;s either something you have or you don&#8217;t, and man, she&#8217;s got it.&#8221;</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Someone get that man a cold shower.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Here&#8217;s a summary of all the &#8216;winks&#8217; we saw in the debate Thursday night:</strong></p>
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		<title>VICE-PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE ANALYSIS</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/03/vice-presidential-debate-analysis/4272/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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How did I think it went? See how much my predictions &#38; advice played out after the jump. 

This will be briefer than I&#8217;d like, as this is my Saturday for the week &#38; I&#8217;m not even supposed to be at work.
But.
Go to the link above 1st before reading further.
Let&#8217;s start with my predictions:
-Palin will [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>How did I think it went? See how much <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/02/vote08s-advice-for-palin-biden/" target="_blank">my predictions &amp; advice</a> played out after the jump. </strong></p>
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<p><strong>This will be briefer than I&#8217;d like, as this is my Saturday for the week &amp; I&#8217;m not even supposed to be at work.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Go to the link above 1st before reading further.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Let&#8217;s start with my predictions:</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>-Palin will do far better than expected. </strong></em><strong>Absolutely the case. Not in any doubt. The expectations were extremely low, &amp; she managed to finish (nearly breathlessly) without a major gaffe.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>-Biden will do far better than expected.</strong></em><strong> Again, this was true. Biden did not get long-winded, did not try to demonstrate that he was the smartest person in the room, &amp; did not trip the gender mines that were placed all around him.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>-Both candidates only have about a 25% chance of committing a self-inflicted wound.</strong></em><strong> I think the closest Palin came to a self-inflicted wound was an obvious deflection (more than once) of an answer she didn&#8217;t have to answer that she <em>did</em> have. Biden sighed audibly twice, &amp; referred to himself in the 3rd person twice. Overall, both candidates dodged this bullet.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>-Both candidates will aim their fire at the tops of each opposing ticket more, &amp; attack each other less. </strong></em><strong>I think this did play out to a great extent, but Biden did a better job of aiming at McCain-not-Palin than Palin did of aiming at Obama-not-Biden.</strong></p>
<p><strong>On that score, MSNBC&#8217;s First Read blog has this <a href="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/02/1484105.aspx" target="_blank">interesting nugget</a>:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">From NBC&#8217;s Chuck Todd and Carrie Dann</span><br />
</strong>Looking to the top of the ticket, a full transcript and a quick count shows that the focus of this debate was much more on McCain than on Obama. The VP candidates mentioned John McCain a combined 106 times. Obama? Only 66. </strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Any strategist on either side of the fence will tell you that that&#8217;s not a good thing for John McCain. He needed this debate to be far more about Barack Obama.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>-TV viewership will blow Friday night’s debate away. </strong></em><strong>At this writing, the jury&#8217;s still out. A Friday night audience vs. a Thursday night audience is typically no contest, though. I expect this to be true.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>-This will be more consequential of a debate than past VP debates. </strong></em><strong>Forgive my Clintonesque response, but it depends on the definition of the term &#8220;consequential.&#8221; If consequential means that the dynamics of the race have fundamentally changed, I would say no. If consequential means that it solidifies already-extant trends, then I think this is true. Again, remains to be seen with polls that won&#8217;t reflect the debate&#8217;s impact until next week.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>-Gwen Ifill will do as good a job -if not better- as Jim Lehrer did last Friday. </strong></em><strong>Frankly, I was a bit too disappointed. Gwen talked with her hands a bit too much, &amp; she at times lacked the persona of what we in the business called a &#8220;command anchor,&#8221; someone who gives off the impression that they&#8217;re competent/in charge/driving the debate. She did probably as well or maybe a bit worse than Jim Lehrer.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>Now, let&#8217;s turn to the specific points of <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/02/vote08s-advice-for-palin-biden/" target="_blank">my advice</a>:</strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Did Palin avoid any Couric-style meltdowns?</em> Yes, she did. She appeared confident of her answers - even though she rushed her delivery in many of them &amp; appeared to be rattling off a coherent argument that she had memorized. The prep paid off. A side note - Palin really did poorly when Couric asked follow-up questions. This format didn&#8217;t allow for many of those. As I warned <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/01/not-to-be-misunderestimated/" target="_blank">here two days ago</a>, Democrats who were expecting her to crash &amp; burn were disappointed.. &amp; watching the clip in that link proves I was correct.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>Did Palin &#8220;stick to broad themes, outline her principles &amp; values, rather than getting bogged down in specifics? </strong></em><strong>I think she did. She was slightly more specific on some matters than  I had expected her to be, but this is a reflection of good prep work earlier in the week. One of her high points was when she referred to taking personal responsibility - a value most Americans feel is lacking in Washington &amp; Wall Street these days.<em> </em></strong></p>
<p><em><strong>Did Palin readily admit to not knowing the answer to a question, saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t know?&#8221; </strong></em><strong>Well, no, she didn&#8217;t - but as I said earlier, there were moments where it was obvious she wasn&#8217;t ready for a particular question, &amp; she switched quickly to an answer that she was ready to give.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>Did she remind voters whom she&#8217;s counting for victory of her working-class roots? </strong></em><strong>She delivered more on this advice than her opponent, quite certainly. It was plain that she was counting heavily on her &#8220;folksy-isms&#8221; like &#8220;doggone it,&#8221; &#8220;gosh darn,&#8221; etc. to help her win the night. She mentioned a soccer game within 30 seconds of the start of the debate. Very effective here.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>Did she successfully keep the attack on Obama &amp; not Biden? </strong></em><strong>See above. She didn&#8217;t exclusively keep her attacks on Obama - there were many times she directly attacked Biden. But she did appear to be following this advice.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>Did she keep the snark that was prevalent in her RNC speech to a minimum? </strong></em><strong>Not as much as I thought she would. Who knows, this may be effective. This strategy certainly mollified the base. Time will tell if independents will respond in the same way.</strong></p>
<p><strong>PALIN&#8217;S WORST MOMENT: Rather than recognizing the poignancy of the moment when Biden choked up about raising two sons as a single parent.. her immediate response was to launch into another rapid-fire canned answer. </strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">Now on to Joe:</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><em><strong>Did he avoid a &#8220;You&#8217;re no Jack Kennedy&#8221; moment? </strong></em><strong>Absolutely. I think he stepped around all the gender mines that were on that stage. He did not thrust or parry in Palin&#8217;s direction - keeping the focus of his attacks on McCain - though Palin left him several opportunities to do so.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><em><strong>Did he avoid being condescending like George H.W. Bush was to Geraldine Ferraro? </strong></em><strong>Yes. I saw a comfortableness that is probably borne of years of experience debating several of Palin&#8217;s gender in the Senate.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><em><strong>Did he keep his answers short &amp; sweet? </strong></em><strong>In terms of the time limits of the debate, yes. </strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><em><strong>Did he remind voters whom he&#8217;s counting on for victory of his working-class roots? </strong></em><strong>Yes, but not as well as Palin did. I thought it was a mistake for him to wait to mention his family challenges so late in the debate (the final 3rd).. whereas (see above) Palin hit the ground running with working-class references. Biden held his own.. but Palin won in this particular contest.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><em><strong>Did he effectively attack McCain more than Palin? </strong></em><strong>Yes, far better than Palin did with Obama.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><strong><em>Did he attack Palin&#8217;s experience in a way that ultimately backfired?</em> No. Outside of the oblique &#8220;bridge to nowhere&#8221; reference, he did a good job keeping himself from falling into this trap.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><strong>&amp; again, in the interest of time (I have a weekend to enjoy here), I&#8217;d like to print the reaction of Andrew Sullivan, which mirrors my thoughts about the debate pretty closely:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong>Biden didn&#8217;t put the boot in; he didn&#8217;t come off as sexist; he didn&#8217;t make any obvious gaffes. Palin didn&#8217;t collapse and pushed through the debate with enough speed not to wobble. But it felt as if she needed the speed in order not to wobble. Her inexperience showed; her tone worked best at first and then began to grate. I don&#8217;t think this debate changed the direction of this election campaign, and I think Palin&#8217;s performance will buck up base Republicans but actually unnerve some independents. </strong></em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong>The campaign&#8217;s trajectory remains unaltered. Palin&#8217;s inability to answer real questions, her capacity to avoid follow-ups, her slightly manic quality, and her inability to relate to working class voters came across. Biden did not talk too much; he made no sexist gaffes; he didn&#8217;t appear to be overweening; he seemed like a nice guy. I think she managed to avoid a tailspin; he reassured. It will stem the GOP collapse a little. But it won&#8217;t change the race. </strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><strong>Lots of other debate reactions can be read <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/debate-reax.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</strong></p>
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<h2>Your turn!</h2>
<h2>What do you think?</h2>
<h2><strong>Post a comment!</strong></h2>
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		<title>THE VICE-PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE</title>
		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/03/the-vice-presidential-debate/4267/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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Above: part 1, beginning with opening statements.
After the jump, watch the entire thing. &#38; let me know what you think!











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<p><strong>After the jump, watch the entire thing. &amp; let me know what you think!</strong></p>
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		<title>VOTE08&#8242;S ADVICE FOR PALIN &#38; BIDEN</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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Ladies first.

ADVICE FOR SARAH PALIN
1. More of this:

&#38; less of this:

2. Stick to broad themes. Outline your principles &#38; values, rather than getting bogged down in specifics.
3. Do not be afraid of the phrase &#8220;I don&#8217;t know.&#8221; Viewers will be much more forgiving hearing this than an attempt to bluff your way out of a [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Ladies first.</strong></p>
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<h2><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4227" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/vote08blog9.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" />ADVICE FOR SARAH PALIN</h2>
<h2><strong>1. More of this:</strong></h2>
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<h2><strong>&amp; less of this:</strong></h2>
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<h2>2. Stick to broad themes. Outline your principles &amp; values, rather than getting bogged down in specifics.</h2>
<h2>3. Do not be afraid of the phrase &#8220;I don&#8217;t know.&#8221; Viewers will be much more forgiving hearing this than an attempt to bluff your way out of a question.</h2>
<h2>4. Remind the voters whom you are counting on for victory of your working class roots.</h2>
<h2>5. Keep your attacks focused on the top of the opposing ticket rather than the person who&#8217;s sharing the stage with you.</h2>
<h2><strong>6. While attacking the Democratic nominee is necessary, do not attempt to approach 50% of the snarkiness &amp; sarcasm you put on display here:</strong></h2>
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<h2><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4227" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/vote08blog9.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" />ADVICE FOR JOE BIDEN</h2>
<h2>1. Don&#8217;t do this:</h2>
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<h2>2. Don&#8217;t do this:</h2>
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<h2>3. Do more of this:</h2>
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<h2>4. Remind the voters whom you are counting on for victory of your working class roots.</h2>
<h2>5. Keep your attacks focused on the top of the opposing ticket rather than the person who&#8217;s sharing the stage with you.</h2>
<h2>6. While attacking the Republican nominee is necessary, realize that the more you attack your VP-opponent&#8217;s experience, the better she will look in the eyes of viewers/voters.</h2>
<p>.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/crystal-ball.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-4245 aligncenter" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/crystal-ball.jpg" alt="" width="388" height="309" /></a></p>
<h2 style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">MY PREDICTIONS</span>:</strong></h2>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>-Palin will do far better than expected.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>-Biden will do far better than expected.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>-Both candidates only have about a 25% chance of committing a self-inflicted wound.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>-Both candidates will aim their fire at the tops of each opposing ticket more, &amp; attack each other less.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>-TV viewership will blow Friday night&#8217;s debate away.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>-This will be more consequential of a debate than past VP debates.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>-Gwen Ifill will do as good a job -if not better- as Jim Lehrer did last Friday.</strong></p>
<h2><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4227" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/vote08blog9.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" />Now it&#8217;s your turn.</h2>
<h2>What advice would you give them?</h2>
<h2>Post a comment now!</h2>
<h2>All views are welcome.</h2>
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		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/01/not-to-be-misunderestimated/4145/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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I have heard quite a bit of crowing about how Thursday&#8217;s VP debate will be a wash for Joe Biden. 
Many liberals/Obama supporters think they have this all wrapped up.
They don&#8217;t.
&#38; they should be a lot more concerned than they currently are.
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<p><strong>I have heard quite a bit of crowing about how Thursday&#8217;s VP debate will be a wash for Joe Biden. </strong></p>
<p><strong>Many liberals/Obama supporters think they have this all wrapped up.</strong></p>
<p><strong>They don&#8217;t.</strong></p>
<p><strong>&amp; they should be a lot more concerned than they currently are.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Case in point: watch the clip above, which shows a fairly decent performance on Palin&#8217;s part during the 2006 Alaska gubernatorial debates. </strong></p>
<p><strong>Couple that with the expectations-bar set extremely low &#8212; thanks mainly to the [frankly, pathetic] Katie Couric interviews &#8212; &amp; there remains an excellent chance that Friday morning Palin&#8217;s performance will be judged as successful.</strong></p>
<p><strong>What do you think?</strong></p>
<p><strong>FURTHER READING: &#8220;<a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14158.html" target="_blank">On Small Stage, Palin Scored Big Debate Wins</a>&#8221; - Politico</strong></p>
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		<title>ROPE-A-DOPE</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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Clarence Page on Obama&#8217;s seemingly &#8216;tame&#8217; debate performance:
His dry, defensive and nearly humorless performance seemed to be quietly urging viewers to tune out and switch to another channel.
Where, I wondered, was the vision, the poetry, the rich metaphors and imagery that flow from Obama when he&#8217;s on top of his oratorical game?

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<p><strong><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/this_nice_guy_may_just_finish.html" target="_blank">Clarence Page</a> on Obama&#8217;s seemingly &#8216;tame&#8217; debate performance</strong>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong>His dry, defensive and nearly humorless performance seemed to be quietly urging viewers to tune out and switch to another channel.</strong></em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong>Where, I wondered, was the vision, the poetry, the rich metaphors and imagery that flow from Obama when he&#8217;s on top of his oratorical game?</strong></em></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong>Then it dawned on me: Maybe Obama was pulling his punches. Maybe he was trying to pull off a debate team version of rope-a-dope, a boxing strategy made famous by Muhammad Ali in which you can win by appearing at first to be losing.</strong></em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong>Ali would lay against the ropes in a protected stance, let his opponent exhaust himself by punching away, then start punching back all the way to victory.</strong></em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px"><em><strong>Maybe Obama was laying back in similar fashion through his first debate with McCain.</strong></em></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4164" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/10/vote08blog6.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" /><strong>Count me among those who initially thought Obama was making a mistake by agreeing with McCain so much.</strong></p>
<p><strong>What it appears he was doing, it turns out, was demonstrate to voters that he&#8217;s more interested in consensus-building than creating more divisions. I don&#8217;t need to check anywhere on the &#8216;net to tell you that voters are tired of division &amp; partisanship this year. </strong></p>
<p><strong>The question I pose to McCain supporters, who should in turn ask his campaign, is this:</strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Has he figured this out?</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>What do you think?</strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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 (the latest in a series) 

LEHRER: All right, let&#8217;s go back to my question. How do you all stand on the recovery plan? And talk to each other about it. We&#8217;ve got five minutes. We can negotiate a deal right here.
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<div class="block"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4011" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/09/vote08blog46.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" /> <strong>(<a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/28/vote08-extra-the-1st-presidential-debate-in-3d/" target="_blank">the latest in a series</a>)</strong> <img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4012" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/09/3d_glasses2-216x300.jpg" alt="" width="216" height="300" /></div>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> All right, let&#8217;s go back to my question. How do you all stand on the recovery plan? And talk to each other about it. We&#8217;ve got five minutes. We can negotiate a deal right here.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But, I mean, are you &#8212; do you favor this plan, Senator Obama, and you, Senator McCain? Do you &#8212; are you in favor of this plan?</strong></p>
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<p><strong><strong>OBAMA:</strong> We <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSTRE48R2KB20080929" target="_blank">haven&#8217;t seen the language</a> yet. And I do think that there&#8217;s constructive work being done out there. So, for the viewers who are watching, I am optimistic about the capacity of us to come together with a plan.</strong></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4013" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/09/questns1-300x276.gif" alt="" width="300" height="276" /></p>
<p><strong>The question, I think, that we have to ask ourselves is, <a href="http://www.passtheroti.com/?p=540" target="_blank">how did we get into this situation in the first place</a>?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Two years ago, <a href="http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=566751&amp;articleId=881163&amp;func=6&amp;channel=News+AOL+Managed&amp;filterRead=false&amp;filterHidden=true&amp;filterUnhidden=false" target="_blank">I warned</a> that, because of the <a href="http://race42008.com/2008/09/17/understanding-and-solving-this-economic-crisis/" target="_blank">subprime lending mess</a>, because of the <a href="http://hnn.us/articles/41986.html" target="_blank">lax regulation</a>, that we were potentially going to have a problem and tried to stop some of the <a href="http://www.kiplinger.com/features/archives/2008/07/krr_reverse_mortgage_abuse_on_the_rise.html" target="_blank">abuses in mortgages</a> that were taking place at the time.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Last year, <a href="http://obama.senate.gov/press/070322-obama_urges_ber/" target="_blank">I wrote to the secretary of the Treasury</a> to make sure that he understood the magnitude of this problem and to call on him to bring all the stakeholders together to try to deal with it.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So &#8212; so the question, I think, that we&#8217;ve got to ask ourselves is, yes, we&#8217;ve got to solve this problem <a href="http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/813632.html" target="_blank">short term</a>. And we are going to have to intervene; there&#8217;s no doubt about that.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>But we&#8217;re also going to have to look at, how is it that we <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/where-credit-is-due-timeline.html" target="_blank">shredded so many regulations</a>? We did not set up a <a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/New_rules_for_a_21st_century_economy" target="_blank">21st-century regulatory framework</a> to deal with these problems. And that in part has to do with an economic philosophy that says that regulation is always bad.</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> Are you going to vote for the plan, Senator McCain?</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>MCCAIN:</strong> I &#8212; I hope so. And I&#8230;</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> As a United States senator&#8230;</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>MCCAIN:</strong> Sure.</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> &#8230; you&#8217;re going to vote for the plan?</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>MCCAIN:</strong> <a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080929.htm" target="_blank">Sure</a>. </strong></p>
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<p><strong>But &#8212; but let me &#8212; let me point out, <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-s20060525-16&amp;bill=s109-190#sMonofilemx003Ammx002Fmmx002Fmmx002Fmhomemx002Fmgovtrackmx002Fmdatamx002Fmusmx002Fm109mx002Fmcrmx002Fms20060525-16.xmlElementm0m0m0m" target="_blank">I also warned about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac</a> and warned about corporate greed and excess, and CEO pay, and all that. </strong></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4019" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/09/train-head-on-collision.jpg" alt="" width="373" height="267" /></p>
<p><strong>A lot of us saw this train wreck coming.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But there&#8217;s also the issue of responsibility. </strong></p>
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<p><strong>You&#8217;ve mentioned President Dwight David Eisenhower. President Eisenhower, on the night before the Normandy invasion, went into his room, and he wrote out two letters.</strong></p>
<p><strong>One of them was a <a href="http://www.east-buc.k12.ia.us/03_04/CE2/dm/images/Ikes_Message.pdf" target="_blank">letter congratulating the great members of the military and allies</a> that had conducted and succeeded in the greatest invasion in history, still to this day, and forever.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And he <a href="http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/d-day-message/images/failure-message.gif" target="_blank">wrote out another letter</a>, and that was a letter of resignation from the United States Army for the failure of the landings at Normandy.</strong></p>
<p><strong><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4011" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/09/vote08blog46.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" /></strong><span style="color: #800000"><strong>***Click the link above to see that 2nd letter, which in truth does not <em>literally </em>mention resigning, only that Ike would assign blame to him &amp; him alone. More on that <a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/McCain_doesnt_like_Ike_facts.html" target="_blank">here</a>.***</strong><br />
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<p><strong>Somehow we&#8217;ve lost that accountability. </strong></p>
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<p><strong>I&#8217;ve been heavily criticized because I <a href="http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/18/mccain-fire-sec-head-christopher-cox/" target="_blank">called for the resignation</a> of the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. We&#8217;ve got to start also holding people accountable, and we&#8217;ve got to reward people who succeed.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>But somehow in Washington today &#8212; and I&#8217;m afraid on Wall Street &#8212; <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/19/way-back-when/" target="_blank">greed is rewarded</a>, excess is rewarded, and corruption &#8212; or certainly failure to carry out our responsibility is rewarded.</strong></p>
<p><strong>As president of the United States, <a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/cb15a056-ac87-485d-a64d-82989bdc948c.htm" target="_blank">people are going to be held accountable in my administration</a>. And I promise you that that will happen.</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> Do you have something directly to say, Senator Obama, to Senator McCain about what he just said?</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>OBAMA:</strong> Well, I think Senator McCain&#8217;s absolutely right that <a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/fiscal/#restore-discipline" target="_blank">we need more responsibility</a>, but we need it not just when there&#8217;s a crisis. I mean, we&#8217;ve had years in which the reigning economic ideology has been what&#8217;s <a href="http://www.usnews.com/blogs/flowchart/2008/9/25/how-to-punish-wall-street-protect-main-street.html" target="_blank">good for Wall Street</a>, but not what&#8217;s good for Main Street.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>And there are folks out there who&#8217;ve been struggling before this crisis took place. And that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so important, as we solve this short-term problem, that we look at some of the underlying issues that have led to <a href="http://legacy.usw.org/usw/program/content/432.php" target="_blank">wages</a> and <a href="http://harvardmagazine.com/2008/07/unequal-america.html" target="_blank">incomes</a> for ordinary Americans to go down, the &#8212; a <a href="http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news-1/79-million-US-adults-have-medical-bill-problems-or-are-paying-off-medical-debt-25594-1/" target="_blank">health care system that is broken</a>, energy policies that are <a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/08/04/224531.php" target="_blank">not working</a>, because, you know, 10 days ago, John said that the fundamentals of the economy are sound.</strong></p>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> Say it directly to him.</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>OBAMA:</strong> I do not think that they are.</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> Say it directly to him.<br />
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<p><strong><strong>OBAMA:</strong> Well, the &#8212; John, 10 days ago, you said that the fundamentals of the economy are sound. And&#8230;</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>MCCAIN:</strong> Are you afraid I couldn&#8217;t hear him?</strong></p>
<p class="audience"><strong>(LAUGHTER)</strong></p>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> I&#8217;m just determined to get you all to talk to each other. I&#8217;m going to try.</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>OBAMA:</strong> The &#8212; and I just fundamentally disagree. And unless we are holding ourselves accountable day in, day out, not just when there&#8217;s a crisis for folks who have power and influence and can hire lobbyists, but <a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#tax-relief" target="_blank">for the nurse, the teacher, the police officer</a>, who, frankly, at the end of each month, they&#8217;ve got a little financial crisis going on.</strong></p>
<p><strong>They&#8217;re having to <a href="http://www.mtgprofessor.com/calculators.htm" target="_blank">take out extra debt</a> just to make their mortgage payments. We haven&#8217;t been paying attention to them. And if you <a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/sustar06142003.html" target="_blank">look at our tax policies</a>, it&#8217;s a classic example.</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> So, Senator McCain, do you agree with what Senator Obama just said? And, if you don&#8217;t, tell him what you disagree with.</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>MCCAIN:</strong> No, I &#8212; look, we&#8217;ve got to fix the system. We&#8217;ve got <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/17/mccains_fundamentals_problem.html?hpid=topnews" target="_blank">fundamental problems</a> in the system. And <a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/100234/wall_street_takes_welfare_it_begrudges_to_ordinary_americans/" target="_blank">Main Street is paying a penalty</a> for the excesses and greed in Washington, D.C., and in the Wall Street.</strong></p>
<p><strong>So there&#8217;s no doubt that we have a long way to go. And, obviously, stricter interpretation and consolidation of the various regulatory agencies that weren&#8217;t doing their job, that has brought on this crisis.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>But I have a fundamental belief in the goodness and strength of the American worker. And the American worker is the most productive, the most innovative. America is still the greatest producer, <a href="http://www.drudge.com/news/112974/americas-no-1-export" target="_blank">exporter</a> and importer.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But we&#8217;ve got to get through these times, but I have a fundamental belief in the United States of America. And I still believe, under the right leadership, our best days are ahead of us.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>O worthy Vote08 viewers, what say you? Post a comment!</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>[programming note: I was called in for the Good Morning Chattanooga shift unexpectedly Monday night - that's a shift that involves working all night. Therefore, it's unlikely I'll be able to continue this series until tomorrow.. stay tuned.]</strong></em></div>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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Barack Obama won the debate Friday night.
No, John McCain won the debate Friday night.
That may be so, but Barack Obama lost the debate Friday night.
Even if that&#8217;s the case, John McCain lost the debate Friday night.
What do you think?

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<h2><strong><a href="http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/on_strategy_and_tactics.php" target="_blank">Barack Obama won</a> the debate Friday night.</strong></h2>
<h2><strong>No, <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/09/mccain_controlled_agenda_in_fi_1.html" target="_blank">John McCain won</a> the debate Friday night.</strong></h2>
<h2><strong>That may be so, but <a href="http://janelinda.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/obama-lost-debate-no-doubt/" target="_blank">Barack Obama lost</a> the debate Friday night.</strong></h2>
<h2><strong>Even if that&#8217;s the case, <a href="http://joshuatrevino.com/?p=675" target="_blank">John McCain lost</a> the debate Friday night.</strong></h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4007" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/09/vote08blog45.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" /><strong>What do you think?<br />
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		<title>INSTANT ANAYLISIS: A FOCUS GROUP&#8217;S THOUGHTS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE DEBATE</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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Above: Pollster Frank Luntz interviews a group of undecided voters (who split down the middle in 2004) of their thoughts immediately following the debate.
Pay close attention to the &#8220;what single word comes to your mind&#8221; answers.
What do you think?
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<p><strong>Above: Pollster Frank Luntz interviews a group of undecided voters (who split down the middle in 2004) of their thoughts immediately following the debate.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Pay close attention to the &#8220;what single word comes to your mind&#8221; answers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>What do you think?</strong></p>
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		<link>http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/28/the-1st-presidential-debate-in-3d-opening-statements/3975/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lehr</dc:creator>
		
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[Part 1 of our "Enhanced 3D Viewing of the Debate." Read our explanation of what that means here.]


JIM LEHRER: Let me begin with something General Eisenhower said in his 1952 presidential campaign. Quote, &#8220;We must achieve both security &#38; solvency. In fact, the foundation of military strength is economic strength,&#8221; end quote.
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<p><em><strong>[Part 1 of our "Enhanced 3D Viewing of the Debate." <a href="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/28/vote08-extra-the-1st-presidential-debate-in-3d/" target="_blank">Read our explanation of what that means here</a>.]</strong></em></p>
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<p><strong>JIM LEHRER: Let me begin with something General Eisenhower <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc5gu5peJug" target="_blank">said</a> in his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1952" target="_blank">1952 presidential campaign</a>. Quote, &#8220;We must achieve both <a href="http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&amp;id=PPmAEH3ibaYC&amp;dq=eisenhower+security+solvency&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=web&amp;ots=QhShRnj2jP&amp;sig=TpnuPxHB3Rn-KXNIzoAVJzDIMv8&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;resnum=2&amp;ct=result#PPR12,M1" target="_blank">security &amp; solvency</a>. In fact, the foundation of military strength is economic strength,&#8221; end quote.</strong></p>
<p><strong>With that in mind, the first lead question.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Gentlemen, at this very moment tonight, where do you stand on the financial recovery plan?</strong></p>
<p><strong>First response to you, Senator Obama. You have two minutes.</strong></p>
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<p><strong><strong>OBAMA:</strong> Well, thank you very much, Jim, and thanks to the commission and the University of Mississippi, Ole Miss, for hosting us tonight. I can&#8217;t think of a more important time for us to talk about the future of the country.</strong></p>
<p><strong>You know, we are at a defining moment in our history. </strong></p>
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<p><strong>Our nation is involved in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-invasion_Iraq,_2003%E2%80%93present" target="_blank">two</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_combat_operations_in_Afghanistan_in_2008" target="_blank">wars</a>, </strong></p>
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<p><strong>and we are going through the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_financial_crisis" target="_blank">worst financial crisis</a> since the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_depression" target="_blank">Great Depression</a>.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>And although we&#8217;ve heard a lot about Wall Street, those of you on Main Street I think have been struggling for a while, and you recognize that this could have an impact on all sectors of the economy.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And you&#8217;re wondering, <a href="http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/09/econ_snapshot.html" target="_blank">how&#8217;s it going to affect me</a>? How&#8217;s it going to affect my job? How&#8217;s it going to affect my house? How&#8217;s it going to affect my retirement savings or my ability to send my children to college?</strong></p>
<p><strong>So we have to move swiftly, and we have to move wisely. And I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/" target="_blank">put forward a series of proposals</a> that make sure that we protect taxpayers as we engage in this important rescue effort.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Number one, we&#8217;ve got to make sure that we&#8217;ve got <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_oversight" target="_blank">oversight</a> over this whole process; $700 billion, potentially, is a lot of money.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Number two, we&#8217;ve got to make sure that taxpayers, when they are putting their money at risk, have the possibility of <a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#tax-relief" target="_blank">getting that money back</a> and gains, if the market &#8212; and when the market returns.<br />
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<p><strong>Number three, we&#8217;ve got to make sure that <a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/careers/work/la-fi-execpay26-2008sep26,0,6075439.story" target="_blank">none of that money</a> is going to pad CEO bank accounts or to promote golden parachutes.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>And, number four, we&#8217;ve got to make sure that we&#8217;re <a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#home-ownership" target="_blank">helping homeowners</a>, because the root problem here has to do with the foreclosures that are taking place all across the country.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Now, we also have to recognize that this is a final verdict on eight years of failed economic policies promoted by George Bush, <a href="http://mcdac.blogspot.com/2008/06/graph-on-mccains-support-of-bush.html" target="_blank">supported by Senator McCain</a>, a theory that basically says that we can shred regulations and consumer protections and give more and more to the most, and somehow prosperity will <a href="http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=node/1883" target="_blank">trickle down</a>.</strong></p>
<p><strong>It hasn&#8217;t worked. And I think that the fundamentals of the economy have to be measured by whether or not the middle class is <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/21/obama.trans.taxfairness/" target="_blank">getting a fair shake</a>. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m running for president, and that&#8217;s what I hope we&#8217;re going to be talking about tonight.</strong></div>
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<p><strong><strong>LEHRER:</strong> Senator McCain, two minutes.</strong></p>
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<p><strong><strong>MCCAIN:</strong> Well, thank you, Jim. And thanks to everybody.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>And I do have a sad note tonight. <a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iTKPojzDMTYe8y12RJuCtrNo0QSAD93F2M000" target="_blank">Senator Kennedy is in the hospital</a>. He&#8217;s a dear and beloved friend to all of us. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the lion of the Senate.</strong></p>
<p><strong>I also want to thank the <a href="http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/index.php/site/comments/local_mad_as_hell_if_no_debate_092408/" target="_blank">University of Mississippi</a> for hosting us tonight.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And, Jim, I &#8212; I&#8217;ve been not feeling too great about a lot of things lately. So have a lot of Americans who are facing challenges. But I&#8217;m feeling a little better tonight, and I&#8217;ll tell you why.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Because as we&#8217;re here tonight in this debate, we are seeing, for the first time in a long time, Republicans and Democrats together, sitting down, <a href="http://www.clusterstock.com/2008/9/the-bailout-brawl-rages-on" target="_blank">trying to work out a solution</a> to this fiscal crisis that we&#8217;re in.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>And have no doubt about the <a href="http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080928/BUSINESS07/809280370/1020/BUSINESS" target="_blank">magnitude of this crisis</a>. And we&#8217;re not talking about failure of institutions on Wall Street. We&#8217;re talking about <a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/PersonalFinance/story?id=5880646&amp;page=1" target="_blank">failures on Main Street</a>, and people who will lose their jobs, and their credits, and their homes, if we don&#8217;t fix the greatest fiscal crisis, probably in &#8212; certainly in our time, and I&#8217;ve been around a little while. But the point is &#8212; the point is, we have finally seen Republicans and Democrats sitting down and negotiating together and coming up with a package.</strong></p>
<p><strong>This package has <a href="http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/092608Sarbanes.shtml" target="_blank">transparency</a> in it. It has to have <a href="http://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2008/09/another-reason-why-paulsons-plan-fails.html" target="_blank">accountability</a> and <a href="http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880924082" target="_blank">oversight</a>. It has to have options for loans to failing businesses, rather than the government taking over those loans. We have to &#8212; it has to have a package with a number of other essential elements to it.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And, yes, I <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/606rmpbt.asp" target="_blank">went back to Washington</a>, and I met with my Republicans in the House of Representatives. And they weren&#8217;t part of the negotiations, and I understand that. And it was the House Republicans that <a href="http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/2008/09/28/afx5480273.html" target="_blank">decided</a> that they would be part of the solution to this problem.</strong></p>
<p><strong>But I want to emphasize one point to all Americans tonight. This isn&#8217;t the beginning of the end of this crisis. This is the <a href="http://www.theamericanscene.com/2008/09/15/the-end-of-the-beginning" target="_blank">end of the beginning</a>, if we come out with a package that will keep these institutions stable.</strong></p>
<p><strong>And we&#8217;ve got a lot of work to do. And we&#8217;ve got to create jobs. </strong></p>
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<p><strong>And one of the areas, of course, is to <a href="http://www.johnmccain.com//Informing/Issues/17671aa4-2fe8-4008-859f-0ef1468e96f4.htm" target="_blank">eliminate our dependence on foreign oil</a>.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong><em><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3990" src="http://vote08.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/09/vote08blog44.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="90" />That&#8217;s it for the opening statements.</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Look for more of this &#8216;enhanced&#8217; viewing of the remainder of the debate&#8217;s transcript later this week.</em></strong></div>
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